If you worked at a fast food joint, and someone told you to flip some burgers for free. Would you? Hells NO! So why is it that people think it's ok to ask an artist to draw something for free?

This week the boys ponder this exact question.

Take it from Adam and Andrew, there's nothing more stressful for an artist than trying to maintain their identity and relevance working as a commerical arist.

If you would like to hear more about freelance and client relations check out this site below.

http://clientsfromhell.net/ 

Jessika Von Innerebner is the lead art director for Mathtoons Media. She has been working in the animation business for over 12 years, working on a variety of interactive education products. Jessika has a burning passion for creating really amazing art and possesses the savviest of skills when it comes to self promotion and maintaining her career in this business.

Jessika didn't go to a post secondary arts program, but there is no lack of skills to be seen in her work. Check out her stuff if you want to see what true dedication and hard work look like when you have to learn as you go.

Click here to follow Jessika on twitter

Jessika's website - KARTOON KID

MATHTOONS MEDIA

The Return of Katie Shanahan along with her brother Shaggy Shanahan ( that's his real name!)

Katie and Shaggy just made a comic book called Silly Kingdom, and on this episode you're going to hear about how it was made! Along with the many obsticles that came up during its production. So if you've ever wanted to know how to make your own book and publish it yourself, then this is a must listen episode for you!

This has to be one of the funniest chats we have had doing this podcast. And you should all go to and buy Silly Kingdom too! If you dont already own it! Support indie talent and help an artist out!

CLICK HERE TO BUY 'SILLY KINGDOM' 

KATIE SHANAHAN'S SITE

SHAGGY SHANAHAN'S SITES:
http://uberfriendship.com/
http://www.youtube.com/user/ShaggyShan

Well it's been one of those weeks.

Andrew is busy with long hours and tight deadlines for work, while Adam is busy keeping his apartment warm and dry.

Now that they have been working for almost 2 years, new questions and concerns arise with the future and they realize that ambitions and dreams they once had have now changed.

This episode deals with how they have been adjusting but still trying to reach those long term goals.

Grab a coffee and warm up your computer! Have a great work week!

Ring in the New Year with our final episode of 2011.

Adam and Andrew reflect on the the things that have passed since they started the podcast. A lot of talk regarding the future. Specifically the industry, how the structure has "changed" and what lies in store for the independent artist in 2012.

Check out this rad article if you're an artist and you are trying to sustain yourself as an independent!

http://gigaom.com/2011/12/29/why-2012-will-be-year-of-the-artist-entrepreneur/